[yaaahoooo_2010]

hi does anyone know why there are less new players in the forum?


is it b/c the website traffic is weak?

i just bought this investment site which has a 557,000 alexa traffic rank and GM is at 3 MIL last month from 1 MIL the month before...... anyone know if some ad listing expired at end of last year?


would pay to click ad revolver things boost new players? it would be cool if there were lots of new players in the forum

[theunknownamus]

This probably could have gone in feature requests. However, I'm not sure how this would be implemented as software updates are impossible at this time. It would be a good idea many sites have used them (XGen Studios, Pogo, Gamecolony etc), but currently, it remains stuck in the idea stage.

[yaaahoooo_2010]

this wouldnt require any change in software to the game .....



just $$$$$ to spend in pay to click area such as this one or the thousands of others

http://www.bidvertiser.com/


this is what im doing with my website and its gone from like 1 MIL alexa traffic rank to 500K alexa traffic rank

even if it doesnt bring in many more players at least the dismally collapsing GM alexa traffic rank would improve

[trace567]

In all honesty I have not had the chance to properly look at the site link you posted yaaahoooo. Before I became a mod here I used to use many websites where you got paid to click and do searches. Also cash back for online purchases etc. It all added up, little by little.

I also prior to taking on a mod role here tried creating a website that used the pay per click type thing. Advertising products, websites etc. It didn't take off because I never got it properly in search engines before giving up and taking it offline.

Is it that kind of thing, using affiliate links to generate income or traffic? The places I used you had to apply to use each link on your website.

Dunno if I'm on the right track here.

[yaaahoooo_2010]

yes were both talking about the same type of thing


i think whats really happening as the reason for the alexa ranking drop is what i think gareth said once......

GM used to have more paid ads and doesnt have them anymore for some reason.........


do you think this is the case?

[trace567]

Yep, a year back there were ad's on the side of the forum. Not big or loads but used to be the odd one there. Now there's none. The ad contract ran out or something.

Also another reason for numbers decrease is GM on google search for "online monopoly" is now approx 15 in the list middle of page 2. We used to be about 3rd or something.

[yaaahoooo_2010]

jesus ur right....... i just did a google search for online monopoly and it came in on page 2 the 1st listing on this page.....


how come you think it dropped from page 1 to page 2? is there anyway you can think of to get it back to page 1?

[trace567]

Some of the sites above us in the google search are companies with money to spend on getting their site high on search engines. Plus no doubt they have a much bigger number of hits than us. thus pushing them higher also.

One site in particular, where they have the funding and budget for heavy advertising. They appear 2nd + 3rd and 1st on sponsored ad's today. Now with us on page 2, most people looking for online monopoly will no doubt of gone to their site and be playing monopoly before even looking on page 2 to find us. If people do find us by google search engine, I think 90% will only of got to us after going to the rival first and not liking what they offer.

When I joined GM there was no other competitor out there, when atari.com had monopoly taken down. Which is how I ended up here in the first place. There just was simply no other way to play monopoly online with humans but here. Now there is, and they are by far better advertised than us, so it is no wonder numbers over this time have dropped.

I don't know the reasons through why there may of been a drop this year. But I guess over xmas holidays we likely would of had more hits as more people have time on their hands. So come jan feb I can see this could show a huge drop from say Dec maybe. Only thing I can think of.

[yaaahoooo_2010]

This logic sounds right again!


I even remember when I started playing here back in '07 the only other option to play online was to pay for it.........


How much do u think it would cost to get on page one of google search result and what exactly would have to be done to achieve this? if the alexa rating is higher do u think this gets higher google listings?


i think its not that expensive to buy higher alexa rating and id do this for the benefit of the game if this translates to a higher google listing esp since im the one most interested in this i think...... but for some reason i think just b/c the alexa rating is higher might not mean google search position changes

[trace567]

I've been trying to find the answers on how sites get higher on google search. One thing I found was a suggestion to submit the site to http://www.dmoz.org/ Open Directory Project. So I've just made a submission there for GM to be added, may take weeks to months if they take it.

I had a look at the GM main site page on the source, checking what parts are apparently most used by google in search terms. The main site doesn't seem to bad on that. Not that there would be anything I could do about it anyway.

Apparently it is not based on clicks/views that push sites up or down. But there is mention of getting higher in google from having good links with other well known reputable sites. Hence I guess the rival is so high compared to here. Again I don't think there's much we can do about this.

Leaving the only other option of getting shown higher, would be on the paid sponsored links. This could work out very costly, and it may only be possible to be done by kreso as he is the site owner.

My only other thought, was that GM may not have the best name in order to get high on search results. If you think when you search "galactic magnate" on any search engine of your choice (yahoo, google, msn, aol, etc ) you will no doubt find galactic magnate is the first result. But that's as your searching exactly for the name. Start searching monopoly online, or play monopoly online and bang we drop to page 2. So, if GM was say called Monopoly in Space (just an random name lol) Monopoly would be in the site name, thus this might instantly effect the search engine pick up. If you go do a search for "online monopoly" look at the www. of each listing most have monopoly in the www. and name.

On yahoo search for "online monopoly" we are all the way down on page 3.

I do have one suggestion though, and Jarod maybe able to help here. He once did a little help vid for GM, he posted it on the forum but its gone over time. If a vid like that got put on things like youtube etc given the right tite (monopoly) in the name, it could help....maybe.

[Beretta]

I am not by any means a knowledgeable techie but my brother in ottawa owns a couple of companies and he says for about a $150.00 he can boost the web site posting into the top 7 searches i am willing to pay to get it done to boost membership just a thought

[trace567]

[theunknownamus]

Good news: We're on page 1 of Ask.com search engine! Not a giant accomplishment but still a good one. On Bing we're on page 4 but they haven't been around long so there's room for improvement.

Since around October, I've been doing some small advertisting via social networking sites (Vox.com, facebook, etc) and word of mouth. Hopefully this will bring new users at a slow but steady rate.

I am curious to why the server can't take a large influx of people. I assume any server could crash with a big change but don't know specifics on server strengths and weaknesses.

Advertisements are fun but annoying imo. I would be willing to tolerate them as long as they remain on the site and not in the game itself. If companies did or do come forth, whom would they pay and what would the revenue be used for?

[trace567]

[yaaahoooo_2010]